Ron van Maanen has the dimensions of the Vrede (1653) in Maas feet

I like to see examples where we have the dimensions for a ship in both Maas feet (12 inches per foot) and Amsterdam feet (11 inches per foot). I noticed that Ron van Maanen lists the dimensions for the Rotterdam frigate Vrede (1653) in both measures:

The frigate Vrede

In Maas feet:
Length:  101-3/4ft       Beam:  25ft     Hold:  11ft

In Amsterdam feet:
Length:  111ft           Beam:  27ft-3in Hold:  12ft

Sources:

1. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992

The small frigate Gelderland only had 22 guns

The small frigate Gelderland, seemingly built in 1639, really seems to be a 22-gun ship, as is indicated by the 26 February 1652 document. Ron van Maanen has the following references:

4 March 1652:  100ft x 23ft x 8ft
16 Nov 1652:   4-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 6-6pdr, 4-4pdr
25 March 1653: 4-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 6-6pdr, 4-4pdr
1654:          2-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 6-6pdr, 4-4pdr
13 April 1655: 4-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 6-6pdr, 4-4pdr
17 July 1655:  100ft long (Maas feet)

Lists of ships

Ron van Maanen's list has dates for gun lists and even dimensions. From that, there are obviously some significant lists. Sadly, I do not have the references for them. Just having dates is insufficient to find the lists, but at least we know that they exist. Some examples:

1. Admiralty of Zeeland 29 March 1653 this seems be a very significant list
2. Admiralty of Amsterdam 16 November 1653
3. Admiralty of Amsterdam 5 April 1653
4. Admiralty of the Maze 25 March 1653

I need to more seriously analyzed Ron's lists to find the lists, so that I can differentiate between the lists and dates for information about individual ships

Ron van Maanen says that Hendrick Jansz Camp commanded the Wapen van Nassau in early 1653

Hendrick Jansz Camp is one of the few captains mentioned by name in Ron van Maanen's list. Ron says that Hendrick Jansz Camp commanded the ship called Wapen van Nassau (130ft x 32ft x 12ft, 7ft height between decks). The ship was also known as the Wapen van Friesland. That differs from what the researcher who contributed to De Sneuper wrote. He calls that ship the Groningen (36 guns). Sources:

1. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
2. E. Smits, "OVERZICHT SCHEPEN IN VLOOTLIJSTEN EN ANDERE STUKKEN BEHORENDE BIJ DE FRIESE ADMIRALITEIT VAN 1597 TOT 1795", De Sneuper, 1995

Ron van Maanen says that Hendrick Jansz Camp commanded the Wapen van Nassau in early 1653

Hendrick Jansz Camp is one of the few captains mentioned by name in Ron van Maanen's list. Ron says that Hendrick Jansz Camp commanded the ship called Wapen van Nassau (130ft x 32ft x 12ft, 7ft height between decks). The ship was also known as the Wapen van Friesland. That differs from what the researcher who contributed to De Sneuper wrote. He calls that ship the Groningen (36 guns). Sources:

1. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
2. E. Smits, "OVERZICHT SCHEPEN IN VLOOTLIJSTEN EN ANDERE STUKKEN BEHORENDE BIJ DE FRIESE ADMIRALITEIT VAN 1597 TOT 1795", De Sneuper, 1995

Ron van Maanen has a bit more information about the old Rotterdam 40-gun ship Gelderland

I was looking at Ron van Maanen's list and saw that he had some additional information about the old (in 1652) Rotterdam ship Gelderland (40 guns). This is the ship that was commanded by Michiel Fransz van den Bergh during the First Anglo-Dutch War. The usual dimensions that have been published are in Maas feet of 12 inches: 118ft x 28ft x 12-1/2ft. My estimated dimensions in Amsterdam feet of 11 inches are: 128-1/2ft x 30-1/2ft x 13-1/2ft. Ron says that the ship was 250 lasts, which seems to be the standard, if nominal size for the 40-gun ships of about 128ft. The ship was built in 1634. Ron has the list of guns for three dates: 11 November 1652, 25 March 1653, and the 1654 list from the Staet van Oorlog te Water. The lists are probably all the same armament. The first and third gun lists are: 18-18pdr, 12-12pdr, 8-6pdr, and 2-4pdr. The middle list has the following: 2-18pdr, 16-16pdr, 12-12pdr, 8-6pdr, and 2-4pdr. This seems like it could be more correct, and the others included the 16-pdr guns as 18 pdrs. Sources:

1. James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
2. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992

The VOC frigate Sphaera Mundi in 1665

Ron van Maanen has the dimensions for the frigate Sphaera Mundi that fought in the Battle of Lowestoft in June 1665. The Sphaera Mundi was a ship belonging to the Middelburg Chamber of the VOC, and was commanded by Simon Loncke (1635-1676). These are the details about the Sphaera Mundi:

The frigate Sphaera Mundi, Capt. Simon Loncke

Length from stem to sternpost:  126ft
Beam:                            28ft
Hold:                            13-1/2ft
Height between decks:             6ft

40 guns

Crew:
140 sailors
 60 soldiers

Sources:

1. James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
2. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992

To some extent, we can match the pages of the outline list from July 1653 with Witte de With's journal

Now that we have Witte de With's journal, with most captain's names in the lists, we can start to fill out the details contained in the outline document of ships at Vlissingen in early July 1653. The latter document essentially lists all ships at the Battle of the Gabbard, in June 1653, although it omits almost all captains' names and all but a few ship names. Since our analysis centers on matching captain's names to ships, we can deal relatively easily with the list. For example, the list from July 1653 has the four Rotterdam Directors' ships listed:

number 56  unready. small and unready
number 57  unready, as 56
number 57  unready. Fluit of war
number 58  ready. (the Dutch is something like "mit dat de Bark vermaekt werda")

From Witte de With's list, we see the captains, and we can add information that we know:

Adm   Ship          Guns  Crew   Captain
R-Dir Hollandia     26     95    Ruth Jacobsz Buys
R     Roskam        24     95    Corstiaen Elderszoon
R-Dir Sint Pieter                Sijmon Cornelisz van der Meer
R-Dir Prins         38    168    Jacob Cleijdijck

We believe that the Roskam was actually hired by the Admiralty of the Maze (Rotterdam). Sources:

1. James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2005
2. Staten Generaal 1.01.04 Inv. Nr. 5556, "List of ships at Vlissingen on 2 July 1653", 1653
3. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm

The Geldersche Ruiter in 1665

Ron van Maanen says that the ship Gelderesche Ruiter, captured by the English in 1665, was an East Indiaman. The was the ship also known as the Ruyter van Gelder. He has the details:

The ship Gelderesche Ruiter

Length from stem to sternpost:  140ft
Beam:                            29ft
Hold:                            14ft
Height over hold:                 7ft

46 guns:
4-18pdr, 18-12pdr, 12-8pdr, 14-6pdr, 8-3pdr
(This doesn't add up.  There are an extra 10 guns somewhere here)

Crew: 200 men

Sources:

1. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992

Felip Joosten's ship in September 1652

Witte de With's journal for September 1652 lists the guns and crew for Felip Joosten's ship: 38 guns and a crew of 138 men. Then I looked at my unpublished list of Dutch captains and ships, "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", and realized that he commanded a ship named Hollandia. I immediately wondered if this ship was that used by Jan Evertsen as his flagship. Perhaps Felip Joosten was Jan Evertsen's flag captain. In any case, Felip Joosten's ship seems to be the same ship, as there was no other 38-gun ship named Hollandia. That ship was 120ft x 29ft. By late 1652, Adriaan Bankert commanded the ship and was Evertsen's flag captain. The Hollandia was eventually lost at the Battle of Scheveningen. By then, Jan Evertsen flew his flag in a new ship, the Vlissingen. Sources:

1. C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.V, 1912
2. James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
3. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
4. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm

There is no evidence of the Achilles of 1644 in the First Anglo-Dutch War

As of now, there is no evidence that the ship listed as number 2 in Vreugdenhil's list, a ship named Achilles, built in 1644, participated in the First Anglo-Dutch War. I had assumed that Dirk Schey's ship was the Achilles of 1644, but the list of Amsterdam ships from the Wrangell Collection dispelled that mistaken idea. What was clear is that Dirk Schey's ship was the ship listed as number 1 in Vreugdenhil's list and which has a minor appearance in the Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654. Dirk Schey's ship is hardly recognizable, as the Staet was probably Vreugdenhil's source for ship number 1, and that listing says the armament was 32 to 40 guns. The actual listings for the First Anglo-Dutch War all attribute an armament of 28 guns to Dirk Schey's ship. I can only positively identify Dirk Schey's ship in the list in The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, circa page 310. While there are lists that mention the Achilles, built in 1644, as late as 1655 (in an appendix to De Vlootbouw in Nederland), no other document can be shown to mention the ship. The other Achilles seems to be disappear after March 1653. Sources:

1. C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
2. Johan E. Elias, De Vlootbouw in Nederland 1596-1655, 1933
3. A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938
4. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
5. list of Amsterdam hired ships from the Wrangell Collection, Riksarkivet, Stockholm

The 12 gun yacht Graaf Willem was listed anywhere

One striking thing is that now that we have access to Witte de With's journals, that the Friesland jacht Graaf Willem (12 guns) listed in Vreugdenhil as number 27 is not visible in any published or unpublished source for 1652 and 1653 that I have seen. The only Friesland jacht that is seen in the First Anglo-Dutch War is the hired 16-gun jacht Waterhond. The implication had been that Jan Coenders' ship in 1653 was the jacht, but he actually commanded a hired ship named Graaf Willem (24 guns and a crew of 85 men), as we can see in Witte de With's lists. That explains why only the 16-gun jacht is listed in the March 1653 list in Vol.I of Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen.

Noorderkwartier hired ships in 1652 and 1653

Another black hole of information surrounds the ships hired by the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier in 1652 and 1653. The ships and captains are easily listed, although there actually be more from later in 1653:

Adm    Ship              Guns  Crew  Captain
N      Prins Maurits     28    105   Cornelis Taenman
N      Burcht (?)        24    100   Pieter Aldertszoon
N      Alkmaar           28     95   Jan Warnaertsz Capelman
N      Burgh van Alkmaar 24     95   Gerrit Nobel
N      a ship            ?     ?     commandeur Bourgoigne
N      Nieuw Kasteel     ?     ?     Claes Allertszoon
N      Peereboom         24     80   Tijs Tijmensz Peereboom
N      Profeet Samuel    30    ?     Reynst Cornelisz Sevenhuysen
N      Rode Leeuw        24     85   Reynst Cornelisz Sevenhuysen
N      Scheletje         24     70   Teunis Vechterszoon
N      Stad Medemblik    26    100   Pieter Schellinger
N      Tobias            26     90   Willem Ham/Jan Ham
N      Wapen van Holland 30          Herman Munnekes (Munnick)

Why are there are there no details of ships hired by the Admiralty of Rotterdam or the Rotterdam Directors?

One mystery, given that the warships built by the Admiralty of Rotterdam, or Admiralty of the Maze, were generally listed with a good deal of information about the ships. In the 1628 to 1633 timeframe, you just did not see dimensions listed, but Rotterdam had the gun lists in most cases. The Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654 had the dimensions (although usually in Maas feet) and lists of guns carried as well. The Admiralty of Amsterdam, during the same period generally had the same sort of data listed, as well. Perhaps the least well documented admiralty was Zeeland. I was surpiised to see that for ships hired in Amsterdam, we had dimensions for ships hired by the Admiralty of Friesland in 1652.

Now, that we have found information about the Amsterdam hired ships for 1652 and 1653, I have seen Ron van Maanen's list of Dutch warships for 1600 to 1800, and was amazed to see that he has a good bit of information about ships hired by the Noorderkwartier Directors, the Zeeland Directors, and to a lesser extent, the Admiralty of Zeeland and Friesland. The only thing he has for the Admiralty of Rotterdam was the gun list for the hired ship Gulden Beer on 25 March 1653. From Dr. Elias, we had the gun list for the English prize Rozenkrans (the former English Garland). There is seemingly nothing else for Rotterdam hired ships. That seems odd, given that the notary archives for Rotterdam have survived. We might expect, given what was found in Amsterdam, that we might find something similar in Rotterdam. I understand that the Zeeland notary archives did not survive World War II. We can only hope that there is notary information about hired ships in the archives in the cities of north Holland (Hoorn, Monnikendam, Edam, Medemblik, and Enkhuizen).

Pieter Adriaansz van Blocker's ship, the Liefde

Pieter Adriaansz van Blocker commanded a Hoorn Directors' ship that was apparently named the Liefde. I reached that conclusion after studying Ron van Maanen's list. On 30 June 1652, Pieter Adriaansz van Blocker was in Jan Evertsen's squadron with the fleet. He took part in the voyage to the Shetlands in July to August 1652. In September 1652, his ship was lying in the Duijntjes with Witte de With's fleet. He presumably fought in the Battle of the Kentish Knock, and was also in the Battle of of Dungeness, where he was assigned to Pieter Florissen's squadron. The Liefde was a very long and narrow ship:

The ship, the Liefde, Capt. Pieter Adriaansz van Blocker

Length from stem to sternpost:  135-1/2ft
Beam:                            27ft
Hold:                            13-1/2ft
Height over hold:                 6-1/4ft

28 guns
Crew: 110 men in August 1652

Sources:

1. Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.I, 1898
2. Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.II, 1900
3. Dr. S. R. Gardiner, and C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.III, 1906
4. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
5. Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652

In September 1652, the crews of some Amsterdam ships had become quite small

In Witte de With's journal for September 1652, we can see that the crews of some of the Amsterdam and Amsterdam Directors' ships had become quite small. This is a list of examples:

Adm    Ship              Guns  Crew   Captain
A      Leiden            30     92    Cornelis Jol (also called Hoola)
A      Zutphen           26     91    Ewout Jeroensz
A      Hollandsche Tuin  24     70    Hillebrandt Jeroensz
A      Gouden Leeuw      24     59    Gillis Tijssen Campen
A      Hollandia         32    107    Albert Claesz de Graeff
A      Zeelandia         34    105    Lt-Commandeur Nicolaes Marrevelt
A-Dir  Faam              28     96    Jacob Swart
A-Dir  Witte Lam         30     80    Cornelis van Houten
A-Dir  Arke Troijane     28     88    Abraham van Campen
A-Dir  Sint Francisco    28     91    Stoffel Juriaensz

Sources:

1. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm

Some captains of Amsterdam Directors' ships

From the journals of Witte de With, I now know the names of two new captains. The guns and crew are as of 11 September 1653:

Adm    Ship                 Guns Crew Captain         Length Beam Hold  Height
A-Dir  Hercules             27   104  Capt. Veeneman  120    28.5 13    7
A-Dir  Keurvorst van Keulen 32   124  Sijmon Dootjes  131    30   13.25 7

Sources:

1. James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Directors Ship Information", 2004
2. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm

The Prins Willem and Henrietta Louise in September 1652

Perhaps the guns and crews for the two large East Indiamen that fought in the Battle of the Kentish Knock on 8 October 1652 might be of interest to someone. The journals of Witte de With have figures that I did not expect to see:

Adm    Ship              Guns  Crew  Captain
Mi-VOC Prins Willem      56    283   Jacob Gaeuw
Mi-VOC Henrietta Louise  48    228   Pieter Marcuszoon

Dr. Ballhausen actually has a reaasonable figure for the Prins Willem in his book, on page 365, where he gave 56 guns and a crew of about 280 men. For the "Louisa Hendrika", a variation of the Henrietta Louise name, he gave the figure of 45 guns and a crew of about 220 men, which were oddly enough, not far from the truth. Sources:

1. Dr. Carl Ballhausen, Der Erste Englisch-Höllandische Seekrieg 1652-1654, 1923
2. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm

Dutch warships on 17 April 1653 and somewhat later (corrected)

There is a list of ships in The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, which we can better complete than at any time in the past (this was corrected for the Zwarte Bul):

Ships that sailed for the rendezvous at the Wielingen,
 after Witte de With had sailed:
Adm    Ship             Guns Crew  Captain
A      Bommel           34   110   Pieter van Braeckel
A      Zutphen          26   120   Hillebrandt Jeroenszoon
A      Westfriesland    28   110   Hendrick Huyskens
A-Dir  Catherina        28   110   Jacob Jansz Coppe
R-VOC  Wapen van Nassau 32   124   Jan Arensz van der Werff
N      Stad Medemblik   30   108   Pieter Schellinger

Ships that sailed on 23 April 1653

F      Postpaert        30   106   Isaac Codde
A-VOC  Gerechtigheid    34   105   Evert Swart
A-VOC  Mercurius        36   110   Pieter de Bitter
En-Dir Vergulde Zon     28   115   Jacob Claesz Duijm
Ha-Dir Sint Vincent     28   110   Ariaan Heeres Kleijntje

The following ships were lying in the Texel roads in late April 1653:

A      Vrede            44   192   Commandeur Gideon de Wildt
A      Overijssel       30   114   Jan van Kampen
A      Gouda            30   114   Jan Egbertsz Ooms
A      Gelderland       30   114   Cornelis van Velsen
A      Zeelandia        34   130   Nicolaes Marrevelt
A      Hollandsche Tuin 24    97   Lt-Commandeur Joris Block
Mi-VOC Zwarte Bul       36   139   Willem Folkertszoon
Ed-Dir Halve Maan       30   107   Hendrick Pieterszoon
A-Dir  Sint Matheeus    34*  125*  the ship formerly
                                    commanded by Cornelis Naeuoogh
A-Dir  Faam             28   130   Jacob Cornelisz Swart (apparently)

Ship recently arrived in the Texel in late April 1653:

A      Vrijheid               50   207   Abraham van der Hulst
A      Campen                 40   158   Willem van der Zaan
N      Casteel van Medemblick 28   106   Adriaan Houttuijn

Sources:

1. C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
2. James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2005
3. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm

Jan Coenders' ship Graaf Willem

Jan Coenders did not command the 12-gun jacht Graaf Willem, but did command a fluit hired in Groningen in April 1653. That can be seen in Witte de With's journals. Ron van Maanen has the details of the Graaf Willem:

The fluit Graaf Willem, Capt. Jan Coenders

Length from stem to sternpost:  129ft
Beam:                            28ft
Hold:                            12ft
Height over hold:                 6-1/2ft

26 guns:
14-8pdr, 9-6pdr, 3-4pdr

Crew: 90 men

Sources:

1. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
2. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm