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Tuesday, November 21, 2006

A question about the Harder and Harderinne in 1653

Two ships, the Harder and the Harderinne (Harderin) were in service in July of 1653. The Harder was apparently hired by the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier and the Harderinne was hired by the Enkhuizen Directors. Ron van Maanen has the details of the Harder and Harderin that served with the Admiralty of Amsterdam. They are both said to have been acquired in 1653. The question is if these are the same ships that were later employed by the Admiralty of Amsterdam. Ron van Maanen has the data for the two ships:
The ship Harder

Dimensions: 114ft x 28ft x 11-1/4ft

The ship Harderin

Dimensions: 118ft x 29ft x 12ft

Witte de With's journal lists the two ships in July and September 1653:

Adm    Ship               Guns Crew  Commander
N      Harder             30   108   Jan Backer
En-Dir Harderinne         30   120   Dirk Gerritsz Pomp

Sources:
  1. Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
  2. Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Schepen die liggen voor Texel op 22 juli 1653", 2006
  3. Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm

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